Dr Who, BSG and fucking footnotes...
So here we have Boag:
the cybermen have always looked shit. they dont look any worse than they always have. you know this, deep in your black, black heart of black, black hearts. and camp? did you grow up watching the same doctor who as me? its the campest TeeVee show ever! well, maybe not ever... dont let your RTD hate blind you to the truth, you professor of playa-hation, you. what would you make them look like? the old ones? ya filthy nostalgist curmudgeon.I've given a lot of thought as to exactly why the new Doctor Who annoyed me so much. I went back and rewatched some of the better episodes from 1963 onwards to try and work out what was missing. The answer annoyed me. There was nothing missing really. As Boag points out the TV show that he and I fondly remember (despite him being a mere pup) was camp as hell so surely my worries over the new Cybermen being tripped up by double entendres are foundless. And his question as to what I'd like the new monsters to look like is an interesting one that also required a little thought. I watched a couple more Cybermen episodes (Troughton's Tomb of and Davison's Earthshock being my favourites) and then I sat back down and watched the entire run of new Who episodes and it was still like pulling teeth. But I did finally figure out what was wrong with the Doctor's 27th* season. It was his 27th season. Over the last couple of years I've been lucky enough to be treated to some of the most intelligent and thrilling scifi television to come along in a couple of decades in the form of the new Battlestar Galactica. It took the bare bones of the original along with a large portion of its heart and revamped the fuck out the concept. A risk that paid off big time. For years Richard Hatch, the original Apollo, tried to get a continuation of the series off the ground. His plan was to pick up with the original characters some twenty years later and much like the novels he penned, push the story forward. He got as far as shooting a trailer, but then Ronald D Moore came along and delivered the death blow to Hatch's idea with the new series. Hatch later cremated his dead baby by agreeing to guest star in the new version and to be honest not many people mourn that concept. I'd have liked to have seen it but I'm very aware that it would have been all too easy to tap too deeply into the cheese that ran through the original series. I rewatched Lorne Greene and company running from the Cylon menace last year for the first time in more years than I care to remember and I was shocked to discover how lame (and short) the show was. A few things still stood out as awesome - the Colonial vipers, the Battlestar itself and yes even the clunky 'we shoot worse than Stormtroopers' toasters. The vipers were literally dusted off for BSG 2003 and the Galactica itself is just familiar enough to give you a little buzz every time it swings into view - names and plotlines also survived (dodgy monikers were changed to callsigns while a spaceflu that knocked out the boys and finally let the girls have a go at playing space soldier was replaced with an explosion that simply wiped out the Galactica's already chewed up pilots - male and female). Galactica suddenly became the hippest show on TV. That the shiny one eyed silver clumsybots had been replaced partly by naked blonde chicks who snap babies necks also helped a lot. The great thing about the new Cylons is that now not an episode goes by when I don't think to myself well maybe this is the episode when we'll get a glimpse of an old-school toaster. I still have enough fond memories of the original show to get a buzz at that prospect and I think I may have done a little dance when I twigged that the Pegasus was about to come into play... Now let me get back to what I was saying about Doctor Who and it's doddering season twenty-whatever. Yes, RTD revolutionised an old show BUT it's still the same old dead thing underneath with just a few cosmetic sleight-of-hands to distract you from the stench - you know, like Joan Rivers. The FX are crap, the new monsters are laughable unless when they are supposed to be funny** - it's just Sylvester McCoy sexed up the point of being easy to swallow*** (One of the problems is taking that old format cliffhanger show and trying to trick it into a nice new slot - a lot of the bolder ideas in the new season would have benefited from having more time to play with). This is exactly why the new show's 'Christmas Invasion' fits so well, so comfortably between the festive episodes of deadly dull soap opera Eastenders next month. There's plenty here to send the tweenies scurrying behind the sofa (the 'Are You My Mummy?' episodes were fantastic - but let's be honest in admitting they had more to do with Sapphire & Steel than anything else), but NOTHING to upset the lowest common denominator soap fan. I hate the new Who because I want a NEW one. I want a Year One. Imagine a Doctor who doesn't know one end of a Dalek from the other , a Time Lord without the assurance of whipping cyber-ass a million times before over a handful of lifetimes. So to get back to Boag's original question - what do I want a Cyberman to look like at the arse-end of 2005? Well it's easier to tell you what I don't want. I don't want a 1960s Cyberman with the 70s, 80s and 90s overlay and respray topped off with 21st century helmet handles - in short I don't want Windows XP... I want Linux Cyberbastards. With huge metal codpieces. I want a new show that's been built from the drawing board up. I want new writers with a track record in pleasing ME to be given the job and let them give me MY Cybermen. Same with the Master. Same with the TARDIS. Same with the split-tails that get used up in there and spat out like half chewed porn eels. That's what I pay my fucking license fee for... * 28th if you want to add the Paul McGann TV movie. ** then you just want to hit RTD over the head repeatedly with his Bumper Big Book of Fart Jokes. *** The only thing that really changed was the Doctor himself - into a mugging gurning twat with a fetish for running around with big guns and an overly unhealthy attachment to Cardiff. Don't even try and tell me that when you peeled all that crap off there was even a smattering of William Hartnell left. [Music: off]


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Year one is a cool concept. I 'spose if we want to extend the analogy - the last couple of Who episodes were a kind of lame 'Dark Doctor Returns' in that it took all the best toys out of the cupboard at once and gave us everything we thought we wanted to see (Bats duff Supes, Doc vs millions of floating daleks) but overdid it, like a kind of fanboy premature ejaculation. Nowhere to go after that .... might as well have a fag.....
Doc Who year one has legs - who is to say that Hartnell was the first incarnation anyway? We could certainly look at why he had a grand daughter.......
Trouble is, returning to Batman, in the same way that people feel compelled to revisit the origin story, wouldn't writers feel compelled to set much of the earlier stuff on Gallifrey? The Gallifreyans (like the Jedi) have always been a tedious bunch, better left in the background I think......
But... we know about the grandaughter, and it was not cool.
Lungbarrow, I think that book is even free off the BBC site.
In fact we know a fuck load more, and it's all good. Part of the magic (at least for me) is that there are 27/28/whatever seasons of Doctor Who, and with the BF audios and Virgin/BBC books (which is where the quality british Sci-fi was for the past few years. Oh and the no so quality as well) even more. The history is what makes it who. With the possible exception of Tomb, a lot of that early stuff is really, really bad... and yet sort of... good. It's like they get a lot of special points for trying so hard. The web planet was terrible, but quite a nice idea... aand they were all really giving it a go. Doctor Who always revels in it's imperfection. I like it.
I certainly like the new stuff, although it's not fantastic. It is very definatly up there with Battlestar as an excelent come back... only... different. Don't forget it's not only for us Mikey, it's for them as well. I certainly liked some of the more derranged ideas that haave been spouted down the pub, but I also like what comes out, and it's someone else having a go...
One day we'll take the reigns and then the public will see the Master do some truly evil shit, and the cybermen will not be gay. Fuck, it'd be great to see the cybermen do some matrix style body robbing... something truly horrific... maybe looking like something from virus. Daleks that actually killed a fuckload of people. Horrificly. So you could be scared. How about some Yeti face eating? I'm a big fan of bringing some more Vampires back into the mix.
But no matter what I did... I'd keep the past, because there's a strong 30 year foundation there, and building on it is better. Why the fuck destroy all that when the greatest reset tool ever, reincarnation, is at your disposal?
Why the fuck destroy all that when the greatest reset tool ever, reincarnation, is at your disposal?
To annoy the Doctor Who fans is the first reason. The second is because it's old and boring.
the Gallifreyans (like the Jedi) have always been a tedious bunch, better left in the background I think
Oh yeah we don't want any of that shit. In fact I always liked the movies - Cushing as a mad old fart who just invented a TARDIS in his back yard.
But... we know about the grandaughter, and it was not cool.
Hence MY great idea of burning all that shit and starting again. Maybe he likes a lot of little girls calling him gramps. Makes it easier for him to get to the point of washing them and making sure they are all nice and CLEAN for timetravel.
Just shoot RTD in the head and give the job to Warren Ellis.
No. I'd cringe to see the Doctor kick the spine outta someone.
Why not *gasp* let them create something new, rather than fuck ther "reimaging" into something that doesn't resemble where it came from...
I mean, what's the point of that.
Kris - you're a fan. Exactly the person I'm trying tio disenfranchise. You and the children have had your time now be a good sport and let us have the old bastard.
Because we want to eat his hearts.
They can try and create something new but lets be honest - the BBC are not the best organisation for pulling completely new ideas together.
Blakes Seven was the last thing they actually got right.
I don't think an Ellis written Doctor would go in for much spinal kicking (his filthy assistants may do that sort of thing of course) as I see him as a scientist first and a hero second. He may rig up a device that vibrates the spine 3 feet to the left though.
With you on the Blakes 7 (except a couple of noticable Rememberance of the Daleks style Who episodes). Yes. Yes. Yes. But Mikey ol' chap, the doctor is the doctor and he's ours. Sod off. If you want some travelling hobo that has filthy assistants that randomly kill people in comedy, yet horrific, ways then make a show called "some travelling hobo that has filthy assistants that randomly kill people in comedy, yet horrific, ways". Or call it Transmet.
OR drop the random violence, and the filth, just add some more clever (which, yes we know (thanks to farting aliens, etc.) was missing from the last series) and we'd have a doctor that we can both enjoy. You know we could do that. Let's take a hammer to RTD and do it ourself.
It'll be interesting to see what happens if TORCHWOOD is better than WHO. Not likely to happen, but I'm still curious.
Kris - I'd have thought by now that after the Lucas fiasco you'd have stopped getting your hopes up about these things.
Touchmywood will be a big bag of dicks.
A better anagram of Doctor Who is COW HOT ROD. Now that's a fucking series right there.
Mike. I can't help it. I have to look forward to these things so that when they let me down there's something else to look forward to.
Maybe... we should develop a pitch about COW HOT ROD. It's a TARDIS, only aa really nice car with all leather interior and cow-style trimming.
And some big bull horns on the front. They could drink a lot of milk and carry little guns, so we could have lots of penis jokes.
Ellis on Doctor Who? No please no....
Don't think he's the guy to give us a new Doctor, though I'd kinda like to see him take the piss out of the old one for a bit.....
I like that 30 odd years of backstory - it can add a texture and depth - but I kinda liked the way that writers on the new series weren't over-reverant. I expected more nods to the fanboys than we got - which is I think a good thing.
They got that part right - even if they cocked up all the villains.....
I think Todd just cut to the quick.
It used to be something special... now it's just a TV show.
That's what you meant didn't you Toddy? ;)
I mean it's not important like Deadwood or anything.
Blasphemy!
(But true)
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